Jump to content

Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Click here to nominate an item for In the news. In the news toolbox
Shortcut

This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section - it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

ATR 72-500 Voepass in August 2023
The ATR 72 involved in the crash

view — page history — related changes — edit

Glossary

[edit]
  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

[edit]
  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually - a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

Purge this page to update the cache

Headers

[edit]
  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

[edit]

Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

[edit]
Shortcut
  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

[edit]
Shortcut
  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

[edit]

There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.
Skip to top
Skip to bottom

Archives

[edit]

Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

August 12

[edit]
August 12, 2024 (2024-08-12) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

August 11

[edit]
August 11, 2024 (2024-08-11) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Sports

Olympics

[edit]
Article: 2024 Summer Olympics closing ceremony (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics ends with the closing ceremony. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics closes, with the United States winning the most medals.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The 2024 Summer Olympics conclude in Paris, France.
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Starts in under 5.5 hours, but just thought to put it here for discussion so it can be live as it is ongoing.Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:33, 11 August 2024 (UTC) }}[reply]

I am just cleaning up the sourcing precisely for these objections. Only women's basketball left, but will find som more prose. Obviously in preparations since we can't know everything exactly.Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:50, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have just added some prose to the events itself. Few sentences should be the mimumum required.Sportsnut24 (talk) 14:00, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! The sections for foreign dignitaries and commentators being mostly uncited was one of the reasons the opening ceremony didn't get posted, so hopefully that will not also be the case here (as more gets added to the article). Gödel2200 (talk) 14:08, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A few sentences of text followed by endless incomplete or improperly sourced lists is not enough to meet WP:ITNQUALITY and is a clear violation of MOS:PROSE. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is true, but the ceremony hasn't happened yet, so it is no surprise the article has not been expanded. Gödel2200 (talk) 16:51, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is the official source improper? There are several prose sentences of the event.Sportsnut24 (talk) 19:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose altblurb the Olympics medal tally is measured by the number of gold medals, with silver and bronze only used in tie-breakers. It is technically correct to state that the US won the most medals, but the usage of this implies that the US 'won' the Olympics, which they didn't (China did) and might be a breach of NPOV. The prose issues brought up by @Joseph2302 (pinging for courtesy) look like they've been fixed, although article might need some more sources. In this case I'm leaning support. Also the closing ceremony just wrapped up, so pull from ongoing. Aydoh8[contribs] 22:17, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Officially, isn't the rule if golds are tied, then most silver medals declares the "winner"? But, I don't think I've seen anything saying China "won." I've seen "tied" used, but nothing else outside of that. TheCorriynial (talk) 22:24, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
D'oh. Didn't realise they were tied on golds (I thought China was still ahead). Thank you for reminding me, I've just updated my vote. Aydoh8[contribs] 22:31, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
silly to mention that nonsense. the NEWS is the closingSportsnut24 (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would seem to make sense that until we have a blurb up on the closing, keeping the ongoing for 24-48 hrs for ppl coming late to see the final results would be reasonable. But after 48hr, yes, its definitely should be removed. — Masem (t) 02:36, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, Support but remove after 48h PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's been removed. Stephen 03:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It makes more sense to just pull the Olympics from ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 06:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as the closing ceremony article is a sloppy mix of plans, predictions and actual outcomes. Just leave the Ongoing entry up for a day and then it's done. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 10

[edit]
August 10, 2024 (2024-08-10) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Tuíre Kayapó

[edit]
Article: Tuíre Kayapó (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Globo article, Tribute from government website
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Brazilian indigenous activist and leader. ForsythiaJo (talk) 01:46, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 9

[edit]
August 9, 2024 (2024-08-09) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

RD: Ida Bagus Ardana

[edit]
Article: Ida Bagus Ardana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://radarbali.jawapos.com/peristiwa/704956420/geger-mantan-bupati-jembrana-ida-bagus-ardana-diduga-tewas-bersama-istri-di-sesetan-ada-bercak-darah-kamar-terkunci
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former bureaucrat and politician in Bali; found dead in his house under mysterious circumstances. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted RD) RD: Susan Wojcicki

[edit]
Proposed image
Article: Susan Wojcicki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former CEO of YouTube Susan Wojcicki dies at the age of 56. (Post)
News source(s): Hindustan Times Variety Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former CEO of Youtube. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Other publications are now reporting this as well. Natg 19 (talk) 06:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighty. My search engine probably has not caught up. :) I support nomination now. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 06:21, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD Worth mentioning and everyone is talking about it in Social Media, can't see why we cannot put a CEO's name who foresaw the globalisation of internet entertainment in the past couple of years .Fluddsskark (talk) 10:11, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ITN/Blurb She was a very, very well known CEO of one of the biggest platforms in the world and sat in her position for the past 10 years. If the consensus is RD, consider this support RD. TwistedAxe [contact] 10:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Picture Recent discussions on ITN's talk page show strong support for posting pictures for RDs and changing ITN's picture every day. The aircraft picture has been posted for over a day now and we have a good picture of this person so let's use it. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:45, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • PP Support for RD respectfully oppose blurb. Notable? Certainly. On the same level as Warren Buffet, Elon Musk or Bill Gates? No. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Steve Symms

[edit]
Article: Steve Symms (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Idaho Public Television, Idaho Capital Sun
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former U.S. Senator from Idaho. Died yesterday, but death announced today. Article seems to be in pretty good shape. Curbon7 (talk) 00:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283

[edit]
Posted. Consensus against unlikely to develop. Curbon7 (talk) 22:20, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed image
The aircraft involved in the accident
Article: Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Voepass Linhas Aéreas Flight 2283 crashes in São Paulo, Brazil, killing all 62 people on board (Post)
News source(s): G1 Globo CNN
Credits:
Deadliest commercial aircraft accident of 2024. Picture is of aircraft operated by previous airline. Additional source for no survivors. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 18:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is a very major incident. Stuart2202 (talk) 19:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Kevin Sullivan (wrestler)

[edit]
Article: Kevin Sullivan (wrestler) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestlezone
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American professional wrestler. 240F:7A:6253:1:BC2A:8EA5:908C:9F2A (talk) 15:47, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 8

[edit]
August 8, 2024 (2024-08-08) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

Science and technology

Sports

RD: Mitzi McCall

[edit]
Article: Mitzi McCall (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood, The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

American actress and comedian. 240F:7A:6253:1:300E:366:F55B:E06A (talk) 07:29, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Issa Hayatou

[edit]
Article: Issa Hayatou (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Former president of CAF and former interim president of FIFA. 240F:7A:6253:1:1131:B696:A25D:A8D (talk) 06:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Chi Chi Rodriguez

[edit]
Article: Chi Chi Rodriguez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT PGATour
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Puerto Rican golfer. Staraction (talk | contribs) 04:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kalatiku Paembonan

[edit]
Article: Kalatiku Paembonan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://toraja.inews.id/read/477729/mantan-bupati-toraja-utara-kalatiku-paembonan-meninggal-dunia-selamat-jalan-putra-terbaik-toraja
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jack Karlson

[edit]
Article: Democracy Manifest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The Succulent Chinese Meal man. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose and suggest close, he doesn't have his own Wikipedia article. 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 12:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jalapeño: There is precidence for this when we ran Barry Chuckle who also didn't have his own individual page. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 13:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Individuals who do not have their own article but who have significant coverage on an article about a group (e.g. one member of a musical group) are eligible for a recent deaths entry on a case-by-case basis. This is not one of those cases since this is not a group like the other one was.
Noah, BSBATalk 13:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the article is effectively about him since he's the central figure of the whole meme. Karlson's name is even bolded in in the article. — Knightoftheswords 14:52, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per above, does not meet the criteria for WP:ITNRD. Estreyeria (talk) 15:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support He is the entirety of what appears in the video. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Karlson is the central person of the topic. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 16:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose even taken into account that the central figure of the video is this person and that there us no standalone for him, the coverage of him in this article as a person is trivially short and indicates that he had little notability, the video itself was. Masem (t) 19:26, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Despite this individual not meeting the criteria set forth in WP:ITNRD does not mean his death cannot be mentioned. BLP protections apply to the page for which he’s mentioned in, and we should make consideration for slightly modifying the requirement mentioned above around “groups”, eg: “groups or cultural icons (memes)”. Hide the Pain Harold definitely needs a RD (when the time comes). Kcmastrpc (talk) 21:56, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP applies everywhere, the protections are used on any page where BLP violations have occurred or likely to occur. Just being tagged with such protection doesn't make the page a BLP. — Masem (t) 23:00, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Support I think one of the main reasons RDs for members of groups is allowed is because the page for a group will most likely contain a fair deal of biographical information relating to the members of the group. The current article does contain a bit of biographical information, which I consider just barely enough to be posted. Gödel2200 (talk) 22:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This is not a biography, and therefore it doesn't meet ITNRD. This article is about the video, not him. He is not sufficiently covered. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:39, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. We do not have a biographical article. While the subject who was the primary individual featured in the video did indeed die, but our criteria for recent deaths does not expand to this scope. The guidance permits that [a]n individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article (emphasis mine), but we have no such biographical article for this individual. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:07, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Per most of the above. The article in question is mostly about the video and isn't a biography article. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 02:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Procedural oppose' per above but am not opposed to taking another look at the criteria This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:53, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Haven’t there been names run on RD who have been the subjects of “death of” or “killing of” articles? If that’s happened before, I don’t see any reason why Karlson shouldn’t run. Thriley (talk) 12:39, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment Not to mention Jack Karlson exists as a redirect, but I guess that's not enough either? Kcmastrpc (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The issue to me is that we have one paragraph of biographical material in this article. If that could be significantly expanded, that might be a reason, but his biography is basically a side note to the fame of the video. Masem (t) 13:58, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We have sometimes made exceptions for persons who are exceptionally famous or infamous for a single thing, such as serial killers, where they are discussed at length in the article on their crimes. But I don't think this falls into that category. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well yes we can't compare serial killers to someone arrested for eating a meal (a Succulent Chinese Meal!). However, it is a video that has taken on a cultural life of its own, including in depth dives into Karlson's history and the fact that we have international coverage worldwide that doesn't happen for many internet memes indicates to me that this may be one of those exceptions of being famous for one thing. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 16:37, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per most of the above. Subject does not meet the customary criteria for RD, which usually requires a stand-alone article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Seems kind of bureaucratic to exclude based on the focus which is primarily concerning Karlson, the subject of the meme video, and contains biographical information about Karlson. -- GreenC 16:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The subject has an obituary in The Times and it doesn't get any better than that. As he seems quite notable, I suppose that the main complication hitherto has been his multiple aliases but his death seems to have clarified that. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:19, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said above, if there was more than a paragraph of actual bio info (hint: that obit can be used to fill in some more) then it would be reasonable to post. But right now, its still a tiny single paragraph within the entire article and includes an unsourced statement (plus the writing is extremely informal for an encyclopedic article). It could get there but the bio must be expanded. Masem (t) 17:41, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If you said this above, then you're repeating yourself contrary to WP:BLUDGEON. Please don't horn in on other editors' !votes. "Democracy Manifest!". 20:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC) Andrew🐉(talk) 20:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And I'm saying that if with this bios we can get that section past a single biographic paragraph, it may be reasonable to post for RD, but while it is only one paragraph and a missing source on a sentence, it fails the quality expectations for BLP articles to even be featured on the main page. Those that want to see it posted should take the time to work on that improvement. Masem (t) 20:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Obituaries from the BBC and The Guardian in addition to The Times. Thriley (talk) 20:14, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WP:ITNRD reads:

    An individual human, animal or other biological organism that has recently died may have an entry in the recent deaths (RD) section if it has a biographical Wikipedia article ...

    —Bagumba (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Central figure within the article, still see content about this guy today Hungry403 (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Taberon Honie

[edit]
Article: Taberon Honie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APNews,
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

August 7

[edit]
August 7, 2024 (2024-08-07) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

Banning of MFP

[edit]
Proposed image
Article: Move Forward Party (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and Pita Limjaroenrat (pictured), alongside other senior politicians from the party, are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ After being accused of wanting to amend the Lèse-majesté laws, the Move Forward Party and its executives are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Move Forward Party is dissolved and its executives (founder Pita Limjaroenrat pictured) are banned from politics by the Constitutional Court of Thailand.
News source(s): NPR Al-Jazeera
Credits:
  • This is an important development in the flawed democracy of Thailand, specifically with the banning of the party exec. from politics; he was arguably the most popular politician in Thailand. While the MFP will move to a new party, the lingering effect will stay. River10000 (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 3 Event is noteworthy, the official opposition party was banned, and this blurb is the best at describing it. Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 3, definitely noteworthy and that is the most concise blurb. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:34, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for ITN, though I will include it in 2024. This is not a change in head of state/government, as Pita Limjaroenrat was not the incumbent prime minister or a similar position. Party dissolutions are common in Thailand, and this doesn't have sufficient due weight for ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose I think from what I read and per JohnAdams, all that's happening is because the high court said that the party's stance against the lèse-majesté law (which violates criticism of the royal family) was unconstitutional and had to dissolve the party, but for all purposes, they're all just jumping over to a new party that does not have a stance on lèse-majesté. If anything, there would need to be more focus on this aspect around the lèse-majesté law issue, not just the simple disbanding of the party and reforming as something else. Further, it reads that this party already was born of the ashes from a previous party one or two years ago, so this is not uncommon. --Masem (t) 00:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment yeah, sure, but this is the main opposition party, technically the second largest party in the country, the only meaningful voice of discontent against the government, and they got banned for due to a rather unpopular law protecting the royals. Scu ba (talk) 00:59, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And as they filter into the new party that is being formed in its wake, that will likely become the main opposition party. The story is really around the law and ruling from the supreme court, the effect of breaking up the party more the side result from that. Masem (t) 20:28, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Jon McBride

[edit]
Article: Jon McBride (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CollectSpace,
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support article looks good Scu ba (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024)

[edit]
(NON-ADMIN CLOSURE)
WP:SNOW. The Kip (contribs) 18:12, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Battle of Tinzaouaten (2024) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Mali and Niger cut diplomatic ties with Ukraine for its alleged involvement in a rebel attack that killed dozens of Malian troops and Russian mercenaries. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters Al Jazeera
Credits:
Though the attack occurred over a week ago, it has gained international attention after Mali cut ties with Ukraine for admitting, and then denying, involvement in an attack with high casualties. Also part of a trend of West African states pivoting towards Russia. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above
Personisinsterest (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 6

[edit]
August 6, 2024 (2024-08-06) (Tuesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

2024 Kursk Offensive

[edit]
Article: August 2024 Kursk Oblast incursion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ukraine begins a large-scale offensive into the Kursk Oblast of Russia. (Post)
Credits:

Yes this is an ongoing item, but this is all over the news, and is the first major Ukrainian offensive in over a year (we blurbed the last one too). It's a major event that I think is notable to post on its own PrecariousWorlds (talk) 20:50, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Good faith nom. However, I respectfully disagree with the OP. There is no evidence of any really extraordinary military significance to this that would justify giving it a blurb when it's already covered in ongoing. Lots of stuff gets news coverage that we don't blurb. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:03, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait The offensive is definitely significant compared to previous incursions into Russia, but the scale remains to be seen in full. Either way, this "man bites dog" story might be the most notable thing coming out of Ukraine in nearly a year, so not opposed to blurbing if it keeps gaining in scope. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:49, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose at this point. When we have broken ongoing conflicts to post a blurb, it is generally for a major result, not at the start of some shorter-term event. If Ukraine succeeds at this, that might be worth posting, but if its otherwise a wash, there's really no story then. --Masem (t) 22:52, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait per Chaotic Enby. On one hand feels like it's covered by ongoing, but on the other, the first significant ground operation by official Ukrainian forces in Russia proper might surpass that threshold. The Kip (contribs) 02:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait per Kip and Enby. This may drastically affect how the conflict goes, or may not be significant at all, hard to tell at the moment. Hungry403 (talk) 02:58, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait This is a significant escalation in the war, seeing as Ukraine hasn't gone into Russian territory before, but I would wait until a significant town/city is captured since so far it seems to be only minor border towns Dyaquna (talk) 22:52, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Doris Brougham

[edit]
Article: Doris Brougham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Christianity Today
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Yes, article has an orange tag. Will try to resolve to get posted. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 02:22, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Updated) Muhammad Yunus appointed as new interim leader

[edit]
Article: Muhammad Yunus (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Muhammad Yunus is appointed as the leader of the new, interim government of Bangladesh. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera, BBC, France24
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Out with the old, in with the new. The current blurb about Sheik Hasina might be incorporated in this but the main thing is to report the new leader. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Yahya Sinwar appointed Hamas Chairman

[edit]
WP:SNOW close. Unlikely consensus to post. (non-admin closure) 🔥Jalapeño🔥 Stupid stuff I did 13:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: Yahya Sinwar (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Yahya Sinwar is named the chairman of the Hamas Political Bureau following his predecessor, Ismail Haniyeh's, assassination by Israeli forces.
News source(s): Al JazeeraReuters AP
Credits:

Support New Head of state, notable coverage in the media, currently relevant geopolitically Scu ba (talk) 22:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose, Gaza is not a state but part of the Palestinian Territories, Hamas does govern Gaza partially, but it is ultimately a militant group. Not notable, covered by ongoing. Personisinsterest (talk) 00:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Personisinterest. The Hamas Political Bureau is not the recognised government. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:36, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because Hamas is not a government, but a belligerent in an ongoing war. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To play Devil's Advocate Hamas does organise a government that is the de facto ruling authority of parts of the Gaza Strip not occupied by Israel. However it can be mostly characterised as a militant terrorist group, and so I don't support blurbing this PrecariousWorlds (talk) 05:42, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Billy Bean

[edit]
Article: Billy Bean (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Not to be confused with Billy Beane. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Connie Chiume

[edit]
Article: Connie Chiume (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC News, eNCA, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

South African actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:89E1:1A66:9443:4B37 (talk) 18:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

August 5

[edit]
August 5, 2024 (2024-08-05) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Posted) RD: Miguel Ángel Gómez Martínez

[edit]
Article: Miguel Ángel Gómez Martínez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Violin Channel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Spanish conductor and composer who conducted from memory, holding leading positions in Europe (Vienna, Madrid, Valencia, Mannheim ...), and composed a Symphony in memory of the discovery of America. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In this case updating meant pruning. The bulk of the article was added in one edit by an editor whose only edit that was: flowery language literally translated from Spanish, many references but many simply gone, and all (until he died) in Spanish with English titles and US dates ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) United States v. Google LLC (2020)

[edit]
Withdrawing, it seems as if it is snowing a bit. Probably need to wait it out. Awesome Aasim 17:50, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: United States v. Google LLC (2020) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A district court rules that Google illegally held a monopoly in online search. (Post)
News source(s): [2] [3]
Credits:
This is one of my first in the news nominations, but I think this is something that should be discussed on the Main Page. I don't think the article is sufficiently updated at this time, but I do anticipate that it will be soon. Awesome Aasim 02:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but only because we have no idea what the remedies are yet. If the court forces Alphabet to sell off Google, that might be somethiung, but if its just a multi-million dollar fine, that would be a slap on the wrist. — Masem (t) 02:39, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose because this lacks sufficient due weight for ITN, and is still playing out. Google will likely appeal the ruling, and the article needs more information.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; this is still an ongoing event. While the ruling itself would be landmark and historical, it could still get overturned on appeal. We’d have to wait and see to make a final determination. Cheers! --WellThisIsTheReaper Grim 04:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until there are consequences for Google, as per Masem. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Closed) Stock market decline

[edit]
Procedural Close: The page is currently at AfD which precludes being linked on the main page. If the AfD is closed early as a "keep" this can be re-opened. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed image
Article: 2024 stock market decline (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Nikkei 225 experiences its largest one-day loss amid a global sell-off. (Post)
News source(s): The Washington Post
Credits:
  • Oppose single day losses or gains aren't good ITN stories. If there was a week long trend of bad stock news, that might be sonething, but markets are always volitile and thus short term trends aren't really good for ITN. Masem (t) 18:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue this has been going on for several days, since the Department of Labor's report. The S&P 500 Index, for instance, has been falling. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly made all markets voilitle but in the larger picture, just more wild swings and not massive corrections... Yet. Other pundants are saying this was expected for a long time due to lack of fed interest cut and the perception infinite growth could go on forever, so the market is now just correcting. Either way, we don't have a significant enough long term economic impact appropriate for ITN. Masem (t) 20:13, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support when article is improved. Economic news are underrepresented at ITN and this one is notable - global in nature, very much so in the news and historic as the largest one day loss. 2A02:8071:6362:54A0:549B:15AE:60C8:4E6 (talk) 18:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This currently this doesn't have enough due weight for ITN. This is an ongoing event and may be mooted if the stock market recovers, or the sell-off could continue and become a bigger story to potentially merit ITN. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Hasn't been long enough to tell if this will mean anything yet. The article would need expansion anyway. Estreyeria (talk) 19:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment On Black Thursday, the decline was 11%. It closed high on Friday. The succeeding Monday and Tuesday had two more ~11% drops. Following that, much of the world plunged into a depression (I'm aware of the London crash and how reductive it is to claim the stock crash was the primary cause of the Depression; this is merely for comparison's sake). This is only one day, however, followed by an eerily similar good day. If the next two trading days have a comparable decline, I'll support. Sincerely, Dilettante 03:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No evidence that this is more than your run of the mill market correction. We don't blurb that sort of thing even if it ends up foreshadowing a recession. The S&P 500's drop today was not even in the top twenty for one day declines. Japan's market drop is interesting but so far unclear what it's long term ramifications will be. And FWIW as of this comment the Nikkei Index is currently trading up around 10%. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article has been nominated for deletion and the nominator's reason was "plain economic news, and even as economic news goes it's not notable". MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article is at Afd and the main impact of the event seems to be (as stated in the lead) the "heightening concerns of a recession" which I do not think is notable enough. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) Hasina resigns

[edit]
Proposed image
Article: Sheikh Hasina (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bangladeshi prime minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country following protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina resigns and flees the country after protests that followed reform attempts.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sheikh Hasina resigns as prime minister of Bangladesh and flees to India following protests.
News source(s): India Today
Credits:

Major news.User:Rushtheeditor (talk) 09:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support because this is major news and alt blurb Sharier4 (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Huge news. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Incredibly important post. Greatder (talk) 14:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have removed the tag until such time as the drive-by tagger creates a TP section explaining why policy supports the tag they placed after this ITN/C was opened. Per BRD, they'll need to gain consensus to restore the tag.-- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The orange tag has been removed since no TP discussion was created concerning the tag. Perhaps the tagger could spend the time to explain themself on the TP. -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 22:38, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I moved the content about the more recent events that were put in the Controversies section up into the political career, as to meet my suggestion that there should be more there to explain why she fled the position (specifically her stance in the earlier protest). — Masem (t) 03:46, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Graham Thorpe

[edit]
Article: Graham Thorpe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

English cricketer. 240F:7A:6253:1:D008:3BBC:2CAE:D4B9 (talk) 07:31, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

[edit]

Nominators often include links to external websites and other references in discussions on this page. It is usually best to provide such links using the inline URL syntax [http://example.com] rather than using <ref></ref> tags, because that keeps all the relevant information in the same place as the nomination without having to jump to this section, and facilitates the archiving process.

For the times when <ref></ref> tags are being used, here are their contents:

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&oldid=1239902441"